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When working with AVR microcontrollers or Arduinos, what is something that if you had known sooner would have saved you a lot of time or frustration?

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For me it's the other way around: I wish I knew about Arduino's and AVR's before they tried to teach me electronics in secondary school. Learning Ohms law without ever having seen or used an actual resistor was not a pretty exercise. Back then it would be ideal to have an Arduino around to play around with.

Because of this, I would have like to have known more about basic electronics. Simple questions as: why should I care about current? (because things blow up if you don't) Why should I care about resistors? (same here and other stuff) Why should I care about caps? (all kinds of reasons)

Having the ability to play with micros (and frying them in the process) has tought me most of these things but I wish I had learned them sooner. (Classic chicken and egg problem I guess)

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Very well put, I have seen many many students who are fluent with there theory of how a diode works but cannot identify one from a bunch of components – Rick_2047 Jun 26 at 4:57
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I wish I'd known how much FUN it was :) If I had I would have started playing with this stuff much sooner!

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I wish I had known that every math class I would ever take I would use again, and more than once, and I sure as hell wish I had paid a bit more attention.

I wish I had a lot of hands on experience programming and using FPGAs. They are the new wave of embedded system development and I have only basic class experience with them.

I wish I had been taught how to use all of the modules of Microcontrollers in classes before my boss expected me to use them all.

I sure as hell wish that my university's electrical engineering department started design classes before senior year.

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I think of loop as being the arduino's substutitue for main in C. So I declared some variables at the top of loop. Bad idea, they get re-initialized each time around the loop. Instead declare as globals before any subroutine. Not a big deal, but it took a few minutes to figure out what was happening.

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I wished I'd had a clearer understanding of Fuse bits. I spent half my time early on terrified that I'd brick my mega32. Oh and ditto with regards to serial IO.

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As someone who currently spends half their time terrified about bricking his mega32, I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate on this. :P – Grey Jun 28 at 19:44
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I wish I'd known how useful a board vise and a really good soldering iron would be. My Panavise Jr and Aoyue soldering station cost < $100 together, but they've paid that back many times over by making it a lot more pleasant to build things.

You don't absolutely need them, but they're much much better than helping hands and $15 cheapo soldering irons.

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I wish i had arduinos and "make things talk" when i was a kid. I would have automated everything!

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The CAN bus communication scheme and CANOpen.

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Do you have any good links? – Johan Apr 28 at 13:52
@Johan - From my answer, you can tell I don't know a whole lot about it. At work we have a book on CANOpen that we use from canopenbook.com. The wikipedia pages don't look too bad. If your'e primarily writing higher-level software, the important thing is to realize a message has an 11-bit ID, and a 8-byte data segment. I'll be working on a CANOpen project in the upcoming days/months, perhaps I can give more links later. – sheepsimulator Apr 28 at 15:28
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I have used the Arduino a fair bit and I wish I had known how difficult serial IO was on arbitrary pins. I eventually settled on a 3rd party library but it took weeks to get to that point and even then it was not rock-solid reliable.

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I'm with Kortuk. I wish we'd started simple design classes before final year of university, but specifically I wish we'd gotten to use an Arduino board in my classes!

We used a specially configured board designed at University of Wollongong based on an old Motorola chip, all programmed in assembler via a monitoring application. Pain in the arse!

Of course, I look up the course content for digital design now and they're all using Atmel AVR chips. sigh

I also wish I had more time to tinker with 'em, 'cause that's the best way to learn!

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Yeah, We did the same Motorola work. There is a big shift towards ACVR inside the tinker/educational community at many schools, but I think the PICs from Microchip are a better starting product personally. I think they have a broader range of applications, but I will admit in Low power apps I use MSP430s created by TI. – Kortuk Nov 17 at 9:18
For our third year group project, we built a wireless electrocardiogram rig based on a PIC chip for the data collection and RS-232 reporting to a computer running the host application. The one we used was a great little unit (can't remember spec now, it's been a while) and really gave me a proper appreciation for Micro's in small, complex logic devices. :D – Sketchy Fletchy Nov 19 at 21:18
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Sounds like a great project for senior design. I am getting ready to change up how my school teaches PIC. I got some professional development boards and will be teaching students how to handle multiple interfaces. – Kortuk Nov 24 at 7:58
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One thing I wish I knew better is analog circuit theory. 1s and 0s are easy...hook pin 1 of device A to pin 2 of device B.

A second-order band-pass Butterworth multiple-feedback filter...not so much. And then you have to worry about the characteristics of the op-amp, like whether the capacitive load on the output combined with the output impedance of the op-amp creates a pole which makes the output oscillate.

Or let's say you want to send an audio signal to headphones. You must carefully choose a DC-blocking cap, because it will combine with the impedance of the headphones to form a single-pole low-pass filter. Pick the wrong cap and you will neuter the bass frequencies.

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Similar to the accepted answer, I wish I had known about Arduino's sooner. There were some designs I was looking at doing around the house. I have no problem designing my own boards with uC's, but I just didn't want to pay for the PCB costs at the time and then mounting SMT chips. So, those projects fell by the way side. However, now that I know about Arduino and all the shields for it, I'm considering them once again.

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I wish I would have known that I could get free samples from a lot of online stores. Then I wouldn't have been forced to choose which project to get started on based on cost. And I wouldn't have been afraid to buy components that I wasn't 100% sure I could get working.

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What kind of things can you get free samples of? Any examples of parts you got from particular stores? – Grey Jun 28 at 19:51
@Grey: Well I just got a free 2X40 character LCD from Purdy Electronics. I only recently discovered this whole sample thing. Here's a place that lists quite a few suppliers that have sample programs: instructables.com/id/Free_Electronic_Samples – wallacoloo Jun 29 at 0:41
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I wish I'd known just how easy it is to make a BSD programmer and get started. That would have saved a lot of time tool hunting. Of course I also wish I would have had the Bus Pirate sooner :)

And I still wish I knew where to get more chips cheaply (including delivery).

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